Christian Politics?

Last week I wrote a blog called The Man I Want To Be that has seen a great deal of activity because of a couple buzz worthy topics: abortion and gay marriage. If you have not yet checked it out, please do and browse the great conversation that’s taking place. Then come back and finish reading this, of course.

This statement is made quite often, “Christians shouldn’t support that.” This phrase is often coupled with this question, “Can you be a Christian and do/believe in/stand for that?” That just seems so absurd to me at this point in my life… replace that with anything that is considered sin [disobedience to God’s design] and the more appropriate question should be, “How do Christians we stay away from that while attempting daily, weekly, monthly or even more sporadic obedience to God’s design?”

Too often we create opinions on situations that we have never experienced and/or are not tempted by and somehow the evil that we commit is dismissed because it’s not that. I have been witness to this in reading the numerous comments that have been posted in reply to my blog. I have been witness to this in some very personal conversations that I have had with individuals who feel so alone in the mists of their personal “that” that they stand for things or protest actions or speak in a gentle yet evil tone about people who live in a world full of “that“.

Let me help sober you up… YOU are guilty of “that“!

The areas that you choose to disobey God are just as evil as the abortion that I went through with, or two men/two women who choose to express themselves in an intimately romantic relationship. You’re no greater. AND, if in fact you have experienced salvation and redemption in Christ it should only lead you to be more aware of how disgusting your heart truly is which should then lead your heart to praise God for the grace that He poured out onto your wretched little existence.

As the “church” we should not be tolerant of the disobedience and intentional pain that is caused to our family members within our church, especially if the daggers are thrown by fellow brothers/sisters.

But… as the “church” we should extend love to all people who do not know Jesus, not in some relative, new age sort of way, in an active and intentional way, in a Christ mimicking way. The way that Jesus loved the woman at the well, he didn’t walk up to her and preach a sermon on divorce, he loved her, offered her eternal life and then encouraged a movement of separation between her heart and the sin that lived within it.

Get off of your religious high elephant or donkey and don’t make decision based solely on and idea that “the church” does or doesn’t do that.

If you think I’m crazy or heretical, tell me 🙂

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9 thoughts on “Christian Politics?

  1. I had a conversation similar to this last night, actually. Specifically related to politics and whether or not we as Christians should stand up for/against issues like abortion and gay marriage. For one, we don’t want to say sin is okay or make it “normal” in society. On the other hand, we all sin, and no sin “worse” in God’s eyes than another, no matter how our society categorizes sins. And I don’t think we should force people to do what we think is right; just like the woman at the well story, a change of heart happens before a change in action. But we can’t just sit back and not impact the world around us for Christ. Personally, I don’t know what stance to take on that yet.

    What are your thoughts about Christians being involved in politics? (directed toward Dennis and others reading)

  2. There is a vast difference between committing sin and supporting sin. I never said that I’m not guilty of sin. Heaven knows I’m a giant sinner. However, it seems you are making assumptions about me and the other contributors that may or may not exist. First, I never said that I don’t love those women that choose to abort their children. My heart hurts for them and the aborted child. Secondly, I never dismissed my or any other
    persons sin. Sin is sin no matter what that sin may be. However, I would disagree about degrees of sin. Sin is all the same in the sense that it all leads us to death and separation from Jesus, but that doesn’t mean that one sin can’t be more evil than another. There is a difference between telling a “white” lie and murdering another human. Murdering another human or cheating on a spouse shows a deeper seated sin issue than getting angry and raising your voice at another driver.

    There are other reasons that I think Christians should be particularly vocal about abortion. Christians should fight for the underrepresented and the oppressed. Babies don’t even have a voice. They are discarded by the parents and doctors without any ability to fight back. We as Christians should be their voice. Do you think it’s wrong for me to call out the people committing the genocide in Sudan? These people are monsters and I’m not going to sugarcoat things by saying that all sin is equal. Another difference with abortion is that the person committing the sin is not only hurting themselves but another human. When Jesus was on the Earth, he didn’t sit idle and let people do what they wanted to do. I don’t think I have to point out the stories where Jesus took an active role in stopping sin.
    I believe that Jesus wants us to love all sinners, but that doesn’t have to come at the cost on not calling sin, sin.

  3. Amber,
    Thank you for your input!

    Our Christianity should be so ingrained within our existence that it is present and plays an active role in everything that we choose to be involved in. I am quite harsh in my general view of the “christian” population, which, in my cynicism makes this idea even more necessary than it may sound.

    Christianity is a life altering event, continually transforming from the moment that God judges our hearts and grants us salvation until we reach the eternal presence of God. It is not a party. It is not a stance. It is not a new set of rules to live by. Christianity is a momentary attempt and living your life for the sake of others to the glory of God by the power of Jesus Christ.

    ‘For whatever you do, do it to the glory of God’.

    I don’t feel like the place of a Christian in politics is optional, I feel it is necessary. We are unable to love people where we are not present with them and I would say that this goes for ALL professions. Not that you have to be co-workers with someone to impact their life but even in regards to organization such as XXXChurch.com who sit within the walls of pornography conventions and preach the freedom of Jesus Christ.

    I hope this has answered your question, I just don’t feel like our conversion should remove us but rather encourage our presence.

    Please respond, I’d love to know if you agree/disagree or what other thoughts this provokes.

    L!VELOVE
    dennis alan gable jr.

  4. we need to wake up and help form our future and the future of our families… God is in this, hand in hand, we need guidance, daily…

    personally, i’m so pleased that this blog is staring some conversations, EVERYONE needs a place to speak their mind… it’s OKAY to disagree!

    dennis ~ you are on my prayer list daily! you are ON FIRE and i’m so excited to see where you’re going, how you will reach our community, our nation, our WORLD! don’t HOLD BACK! pray, preach, blog, then pray some more, KEEP REACHING OUT! don’t hold back! don’t hold back! tell us how you REALLY feel! what’s YOUR story? the world needs to know…

  5. There is so much confusion in the world and even so in the body of Christ. The confusion in the body is what concerns me the most. “Remember CONFUSION is from the enemy.” Christians spend more time arguing and calling each other out on what one another is doing wrong when they should be praying for each other and loving those around them. The Bible says that we are to confess are sins to each other and lay hands on each other and pray. How can anyone feel comfortable enough to ask for prayer from a brother or sister when there is some much arrogant, ignorant judging going on. NEWS FLASH!! We were not perfect before Jesus, so what makes us think we are perfect after Jesus? Look dont get the wrong idea i am not claiming to have this all figured out, truth be told, i have and at times and are one of the front runners when it comes to riding my holy horse. Jesus has been dealing with my heart and has made it completly clear that i am not nor will i ever be perfect, and neither will YOU! Hurts does’nt it? On the flip side of this i believe that it is absolutly of great importance that we hold one another accountable for our actions, we would be crazy not to do so.
    Bottom line is this, all this talk of love that we as a body do is not effective at all when we come before non-believers and believers alike with a list of what to do’s and what not to do’s. When we approach people like that we are not showing them an unconditional love but rather a conditional love.

  6. I agree. I guess the frustration comes from the face that whatever stance you take, someone is going to dislike you for it. But when your view comes from a stance of love, and from true belief and love for Jesus, it will be good in God’s eyes.

  7. Eric,
    I am sorry that it has taken a week almost for me to respond to you.

    At no point have I not called abortion a sin.
    At no point have I justified its severity.
    At no point have I condoned the act.
    What I have done is take the microscope off of that specific action.
    What I have done is support the freedom that we have as humans both believers and non. We are all able to choose to be obedient or disobedient.
    What I have done is chosen not to enforce my spiritual and cultural conviction[s] on any person whether believer or non.

    My first responsibility is to introspectively handle my sin… The level of depravity that naturally rises up within me is enough to take up so much time that after eating, sleeping, interacting with those I love and dealing with my own sin, I have very little time to point out the “sin” of other people. If we are personally sinned against, we are to make it known or if we are certain that the person is a part of the family of God, then we may comment [maybe]. However, if it is a different situation… let the holy spirit do the convicting, pray for him/her/them and treat them and talk about them no differently than you would your best friend.

    *easier said than done.

    L!VELOVE
    dennis

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